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--- faq [2025/06/26 00:10] – [Favor is a grind and items and Favor will be wiped on release. Shouldn't I just wait for release to play the game?] unhandled
+++ faq [2025/06/26 00:37] (current) – [Why isn't Armor-Patching working?] unhandled
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 The beauty of PG is that after you get to combat level 90 or higher in skills you can determine if you really want to stick around to get your crafting skills to 90+ as well. You certainly don't have to. In fact, a lot of players essentially do a "reset" once they hit level 90+ in their first two skills and many choose to play as an animal so its an entirely new experience for them!
+I just wanted to end referencing the bit of history I gave you above. In the end, I'm not particularly happy that people see a grind as a bad thing. I think it's a good thing. I think some time-gated content is okay, but what WoW did to the genre was a step backwards, IMHO, and removes any sense of real progression and reward for hard work. Work SHOULD be hard for it to be rewarding. Believe me, if you ever max the crafting skill Saddlery in this game, you have my utmost respect both for the in game money you spent and the sheer amount of work you probably did trying to get every crafting buff possible before the grind. That's the reason people do it, though, not because it is easy, but because it's hard!
 ==== This game isn't popular. Why should I play it? ====
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 If you measure a game's value to you by how many Youtube or Twitch viewers watch it, you're never going to be happy with a game like Project Gorgon, but you're also going to miss out on plenty of other games you might find very fulfilling, too.
-Some of the most popular games in the world right now are pay-to-win mobile games, but I am guessing *you* (or the type of person reading this right now) find mobile games not fun, right? Why do you find them not fun if they are so popular? Think about that. One reason might be that the mobile games at the top today will be old news within a year. After all, does anyone remember Facebook games like Farmville? How about Words With Friends?
+Some of the most popular games in the world right now are pay-to-win mobile games, but I am guessing *you* (or the type of person reading this right now) find mobile games not fun, right? Why do you find them not fun if they are so popular? Think about that. One reason might be that the mobile games at the top today will be old news within a year. After all, does anyone remember Facebook games like Farmville? How about Words With Friends? Another reason is that mobile games go after people just looking for "cheap thrills" that aren't actually a rewarding use of their time.
 So now apply that to your own gaming habits and the argument that a game isn't popular right now.
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 Right now (September 2020) on Twitch.tv the most popular game listed is Among Us. If you don't believe me that games fall off in popularity, bookmark this and put in a reminder to come back in September 2021, Project Gorgon will still be here, this wiki will still be here, and many of the same community members playing Gorgon will still be here, but Among Us won't still be at ~200k viewers or even anywhere close to half of that. (Update March 2021, it's averaging 20k viewers now and everyone is playing Valheim instead) (Update July 2021, 4.3k viewers)
-Now that it's been one full year, I can confirm that in October 2021, Among Us has 3.3k live viewers on Twitch, proving my point. (Update December 2022, only 2.2k viewers. March 2023, only 1.6k viewers.)
+Now that it's been one full year, I can confirm that in October 2021, Among Us has 3.3k live viewers on Twitch, proving my point. (Update December 2022, only 2.2k viewers. March 2023, only 1.6k viewers. June 2025, only 628 viewers.)
 At some point you are going to find that you play games that you want to play for yourself and not just for everyone else you know or that follows a certain streamer or even shares the same guild that usually jumps from MMO to MMO. And that's okay. Sometimes you might play a popular or flavor-of-the-month game because your friends are, and that's okay, too.
-Don't let the lack of popularity of old school MMOs like Project Gorgon fool you, it's a deep game with a lot of skills to work on. The carrot-on-a-stick appeal of retro MMOs is still a very satisfying dopamine factory for your brain, just enjoy it. :D
+Don't let the lack of popularity of old school MMOs like Project Gorgon fool you, it's a deep game with a lot of content. The carrot-on-a-stick appeal of retro MMOs is still a very satisfying dopamine factory for your brain, just enjoy it. :D
-Plenty of people are online right now playing and you'll run into them at any time of day. Overnight, only the players from the Pacific and Asian regions get on and it will drop under 100 concurrent players, but it seems like it is always easy to find a group since there is really only one server and there's always someone on during prime time. I'd recommend joining with a friend or two though, as this is a much more enjoyable game to play with friends.
+Plenty of people are online right now playing and you'll run into them at any time of day. Overnight, only the players from the Pacific and Asian regions get on and it will drop under 100 concurrent players, but it seems like it is always easy to find a group since there is really only one server and there's always someone on during prime time. I'd recommend joining with a friend or two though, as this is a considerably enjoyable game to play with friends.
-Lastly, if you are an engineer, systems analyst, or someone that likes to tinker with systems regardless of how used they are, you can definitely play this game solo and appreciate it for what it is and the unique interactions of skills. Brewing, for example, has an "explore your options" system that is unique to every character and not found in any other MMO. It's very similar to how the original spellcasting in Asheron's Call felt before people provided guides to every spell in the game.
-Plus, with 100+ skills in the game and many of them having synergy levels, it's fun to level certain skills and watch how they all affect each other.
 ==== No, you don't understand, MMOs must be popular, it's the whole point of "Massively" in the term MMO. Why don't you get that? ====
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 Another thing to consider is that if you put the game on your Steam wishlist, you will get notified when it goes on sale. Definitely buy it on sale if it ever goes to $20 or lower again, but honestly it's still a great deal even at $30 or $35.
+I believe there's a $20 option for the game now as well, hopefully that made it a bit more accessible for people.
 ==== Is the VIP subscription pay to win? (P2W) ====
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 ==== Why only the tutorial island and two zones for Demo players? ====
-While it may seem like two zones is small, these are actually pretty big zones and they include enough mobs and monsters that you could easily hit level 15 in many skills without entering a single Dungeon. That said, you can enter any of the dungeons in Serbule and Serbule Hills as far as I know.
+While it may seem like two zones (3 with Anagoge) is small, these are actually pretty big zones and they include enough mobs and monsters that you could easily hit level 15 in many skills without entering a single Dungeon. That said, you can enter any of the dungeons in Serbule and Serbule Hills as far as I know.
 There are at least two, possibly three dungeons in Serbule alone that you can't even properly do at level 15 in combat skills without group help. Serbule is definitely one of the bigger and more fleshed-out zones. Serbule Hills is similarly large and has a lot of quests and named mobs usually having to deal with those quests. You're getting basically two of the biggest zones in the game and the whole starter island for free, basically.
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 I had the unfortunate experience of watching someone who was banned for verbal abuse spin up demo account after demo account complaining about the community in Demo chat one night when the game was attracting a lot of new players. In one event, someone even paid for another account just to be able to complain in Global about it.
-In other instances, they will post to Reddit complaining about a mundane feature not being available for VIP. Then, if you question them about why they really even need that, they complain about how the community is so horrible. In other words, most of the reasons why you sometimes see insults to the community is because the clever trolls know it gets under the playerbase's skin.
+In other instances, they will post to Reddit complaining about a mundane feature not being available for VIP or complaining that VIP gives X or something. Then, if you question them about why they really even need that, they complain about how the community is so horrible. In other words, most of the reasons why you sometimes see insults to the community is because the clever trolls know it gets under the playerbase's skin.
-That's why I don't really brag about the community, even if it is the best among the other MMOs out there.
+That's why I don't really brag about the community in my Steam review or online anywhere, even if I do think it is the best among the other MMOs out there. (Eh, OK I did brag here, but this is the only place I will do that)
 In reality, the veterans playing the game are great and enjoy the game and will help you in various ways if you ask for it. But I do kind of wish that when people reviewed the game they didn't overhype the community. We're normal humans after all with our own needs and wants, not superheroes that are going to make your every waking moment on Project Gorgon the best social experience you've ever had.
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 ==== Why isn't Armor-Patching working? ====
-See above, it's possible you are trying to link directly to the item instead of the skill.
+See above, it's possible you are trying to link directly to the item on your hotbar instead of the skill.
 ==== I'm done with questions where is the guide? ====
 [[beginning|The Beginning]] is the start of the game and custom creation if you are ready to proceed and have no further questions about [[graphicsbugs|graphics settings]], otherwise if you still have questions you can [[contactauthor|contact me]]. Otherwise if you are already in game you can proceed to [[anagogeisland|Anagoge Island]] or [[serbule|Serbule]].